Deciding when to hunker down or run for your life.

My brief answer to the question of why we have BoB's and 72 hr packs, is I figure some scenario could come up where I wish I had a well supplied bag to eather help me get back home after an event, or help me get away from an event.

Deciding when to hunker down and when to run for your life must be answered on an individual case bases.

My longer winded rambling mind says:

Like you, we prepare for as much as we can, and hope we have what we will need. Each scenario has its own list of actions for those that has the option to try and survive. Recently, We have been discussing our bug out bags, our 72 hr kits, probably because the season is changing and they need double checked to be right for the coming season. Like Angelica expressed about her car trunk being her lifeboat against disaster.

My parents were bomb shelter folks in the 50's, my Grandparents were depression era survivalist in the 30's. My Great grandparents were self reliant pioneers in the late 1800's. My Great Great Great grandparents survived relocating to Oklahoma via the trail of tears in 1838. I figure I'm alive because my ancestors worked at being survivalists. Those I know, and many more back before recorded time. I pay attention to the hair standing up on the back of my neck as I suspect them did and more here do too.

Some situations will call for hunker down and some will call for run like hell.

I'm mentally ready for both, but supply wise, and training wise, - there is always room for improvements.

I became a registered nurse in the late 60's. I've lived a Mother Earth New's lifestyle in the 70's & off grid in the 80's along with being a tree hugging environmental activist. :+)

Yes, I would like to be living on a remote farm -- totally ready to be off grid & self sufficient with my 'CLAN' all living in a cluster of homes around a community farmhouse. With orchards, and chickens and meat hanging in a cold room waiting to be butchered. With the smoke house bellowing good smells and a large amount of canned goods all looking pretty in the underground sanctuary. With the younger women and men learning from the older ones just how to butcher or make the bread.

Years ago when I started the Oklahoma group, I was ready to try and find others who wanted the same situation, and have a communal society desiring to create that farm sanctuary. But, after I did a survey, I found that most everyone in this clan, owns there homes and plan on individual survival preparedness. That was fine for any way we can collectively become smarter, more inspired, and better prepared for life's possibilities then we are all part of an important movement.

My hide-out, run-too land, isn't that remote but it is what I could afford to buy. Along with my experience surviving off grid living, and a couple decades of survival / emergency training, unfortunately, also came AGE and as a senior citizen widow, I prepare to stay in my city home unless I am run out.

As to what I am preparing for:...... You can throw a dart at a big wall of possibilities.

Lots of people around the globe, including me, believe our lives will change forever in 2012.

Hopi Elders tell the story of three great rocks falling from the sky, one right behind another and in the long run, only a small number of people survive to carry on. Those who do will need all their wits, for it will be only those healthy, trained, prepared, and lucky that live to experience the challenges .

In the meantime, hurricanes are becoming super storms using the new warmer waters in the gulf, and we are being warned they are expected to do huge damage to both the gulf states, and or up the east coast. Millions of environmental refugees could then pour into our part of the world. Envision what happens to our local area if two million people come here in a week. Then we are ripe for Anarchy taking over because we don't have enough social order to control the masses in panic survival mode themselves.

In the meantime, Those that hate us more than anything else in their existence, believe we are too evil to be allowed to exist, and their god wants them to attack us. Our government openly says we most likely will have a terrorist's nuclear bomb go off here in the USA within the next ten years. Maybe several suitcase size dirty bombs and that brings more refugees if we are not in the immediate danger area.

Meanwhile many cities possibly even entire states have no electricity since our grid is all tied together. The rest of the country ration, among other things, maybe two or three hours of electricity available a day if we are lucky. Meantime, the danger remains for the west coast to experience major earthquakes, and we are told that we are overdue for the Yellowstone volcano exploding. Sending the world into darkness and a deep-freeze for several years.

Yep, Pick one and here we set with the ice caps melting and we watch what is left of our entire coastline, go under from thirty to 60 feet of water. Texas is split in two by the ocean rising and reclaiming its old territory up the middle to Colorado and Florida basically doesn't exist any longer. Every day more refugees come toward the middle of the country looking for and ready to fight for a chance to survive.

A rational realistic Steven King nightmare world? Pretty much. And some think we are crazy for bothering to pack an "in-case bag".

Hope you continue to post.

Be better prepared today than you were yesterday.

Gloria Youngdeer

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Oklahoma-survivalists-network/

We need to work together patriots

Patriots for some strange reason don't want to work together. It's really an enigma with me. The left does not have this flaw, and we certainly could learn a heck of a lot from them. If you doubt me take a look at: http://www.ic.org/ There are several thousand, mostly left leaning, Intentional Communities listed there. I was recently pleasantly surprised when a member of one of these large and numerous "tree hugging" groups assured me that they were awake, and well armed, though they did not want it to be well known.

Patriots for the most part want to hide out in the woods and hope that the bad things will go away. I guess that is to be expected after the CIA with it's MK Ultra mind control program has spend the last 70 years learning how to brain wash us into doing the exact opposite of what is best for us.

What they did not take into account however are independent thinkers like myself that see through their smoke and mirrors.

Do you really think that the NWO does not know about your retreat? Or can not easily find it? Are you really that naive? Is there a record at the court house with your name on it? Even if it is held in a corporation or trust there are names that are in the public record. One way to cover this paper trail involves non-statutory trusts, but even that may set off red flags, if it was instituted in the last few years or even the fact that it is a trust rather than individual ownership.

Have you used your cell phone in the vicinity of your retreat? If so you are located. Have you used an ATM or credit card near your retreat? Have you visited a Walmart in the area with it's facial recognition software? Have you driven past any traffic cameras that use license plate recognition technology? Has the local sheriff driven by your place? How did you pay your property tax? Can it be traced back to you? Do you get prescriptions locally? Have you bought bulk food somewhere locally? Have you mail ordered anything from a "survival" type company? Are you underground where satellites can't see? Are your crops underground? Do you heat with wood and leave a smoke and heat signature? Did you ever mention your location in an email or on a telephone call that can be traced to you? Have you called from pay phones in your area? If the people that you called are related to you then your location may be taken a closer look at. No matter if you used an untraceable calling card or not. Will you use a radio that can be triangulated on?

If you did any of the above, you are not invisible. Not by along shot, and most of you have done many of the above things. Even if you have not done a single one of the above, you are not will not be hard to find with modern technology.

What is the answer then?

It's very simple we need to network.
We need to let each other know about our existence.
Working with other groups can create a synergy that makes us 100 times as effective as working alone.

• One of the big things that we need is information on the movements of who ever the enemy is. How can you bug out if you don't know they are coming? How can you fight an enemy that you don't know where they are at?

• If you have a network of farms in a 5 to 20 mile range of you location, you can all alert one another by radio or even by runner of any impending danger.

• If your group needs to bug out you will have a support system.

• If you need to exchange seeds for plants that you can't grow because of cross pollination problems, you can arrange ahead of time to have certain farms save certain seeds and grow certain plants.

• Another group may be able to barter a life saving item like a pair of boots, bullets, or an antibiotic.

• Another group may have a specialist such as a dentist, nurse, or an ex special forces member whose services may save your life.

• You can have a mutual defense compact and come to each others defense.

• Do you have enough members for a 24 hour watch? Perhaps working with another group you can set up a watch along an approaching road.

The bottom line is if your group is isolated you have much less chance of making it. Don't fall for thinking that you can hide and be safe.
In short I urge you to list at least contact information for your group on the Preppers Network and also at a site such as my group homesteading site: http://bigjohnsforum.com

Thanks for listening. Now take some action, liberty is not a spectators sport.